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Online retailer and first-time attendee reflects on Shop.org

Steve Spangler of SteveSpanglerScience.com leapt in — boots and all! First time attendee and speaker on my panel "What Happened when eTailers dove into Blogs, Podcasting and RSS" at Shop.org in Las Vegas last week, Steve didn't let the thought of mingling with billion dollar online retailers intimidate him. And he has a message for all those more modest online retailers — be there next year! His head still hurts, because there was so much to learn.

Steve says:

There was so much information that I filled an entire reporter's notebook. And I also asked myself: "How is it that we are surrounded by people who are so smart?" In a culture where the Internet is changing so quickly, and everybody has got their different spin on what's happening, I realized there were 1500 people there, 1499 of whom knew more than I did about on-line retail.

To get to have breakfast with the Internet Marketing Director of Best Buy, or the guy from CNET, or Amazon.com, these people were willing to share their best practices in an open and frank way. I learned how to increase clickthrough rates. Conversion rates. Landing pages. I was overwhelmed by what people were willing to share with us. What was so refreshing was that the major players were extremely honest with one another as well!

There is no magic bullet, nor one thing that anybody can do to make their website search better look to their customers. A website is a living breathing being. You have to feed it, nurture and care for it. Just like raising kids. We are all excited when a child is born, and then it grows and we get into the serious business of parenting.

Walking the exhibit hall for the first time in my life, I visited a booth called BillMeLater. They offer a great service, but don't take on any company doing less than $15 million in on-line retail. We're a little smaller than that! But it certainly was eye opening.

From the standpoint of finding out what a landing page was, and what caused people to stay on that page - that was the best takeaway from the whole conference. We were in the process of doing a product page redesign, and what I took away from that session changed what we put on that page. What would be the #1 factor on that page? Price? Shipping? Trust? Answer: Free shipping – or some form of shipping discount. An orange "free shipping!" logo or box drew the greater conversion rate. The key is to get people to put their credit card in and drive those sales.

Kelly Mooney's "Gender Agenda" session provided a great insight into website viewing habits. The guys tend to stay predominantly on one site, 3 or 4 clicks just to compare prices. To women, however, it is an incredibly enjoyable experience, many taking 20 minutes to browse for products other than their initial reason for visiting. That sort of information is important to an on-line retailer. I have got a lot of work ahead of me.

As for my own panel presentation with Stephan, I looked out at that audience and saw people from those huge billion dollar retailers thinking that this blogging lark could be something we are going to have to explore.

Listen to my podcast interview with Steve after Shop.org for his full and frank views on this remarkable event. And take on board his recommendation: Be There Next Year!

What happened when etailers dove into blogs, podcasts, and RSS

I'm finally getting a chance to blog my panel session which took place last week in Las Vegas at the Shop.org conference.

The session was titled "Alternative Marketing: What Happened When Etailers Dove into Blogs, Podcasting, and RSS"

Moderator:
(yours truly!)

Panelists:
Seth Greenberg, CEO, eHobbies
Pinny Gniwisch, Founder & EVP Marketing, Ice.com
Steve Spangler, Founder & CEO, Steve Spangler Science

You can download the Powerpoint slides here.

My esteemed colleague Brian Klais, one of our VPs here at Netconcepts, graciously took notes for me which I am posting below:

Stephan:
- Gave an overview of RSS technology and blogs
- 439 million Google search results for "blog"
- RSS is not the same thing as a blog, it is a way to deliver / syndicate content to consumers
- Search for "trustrank" in Google for an example of how RSS builds inbound links = top rankings
- Retailers can deliver news alerts, specials, new resources that have been posted to the site
- VMware builds customized feed around my interests
- Highlights of podcasting, moblogging, and a new buzzword "vodcasting"
- You don't have to blog to benefit from blogosphere
- Voltaic has a solar powered backpack, blogging friend Treehugger blogged it, then picked up by CoolHunting then Gizmodo and sales skyrocketed
- Negative buzz for Kryptonite = blogstorm
- The power of link text from the blogosphere that contain your brand names profoundly impacts your rankings in Google, Yahoo, MSN. Just look at what ranks in top 10 for "kryptonite"

Seth:
- Blogs: ehobbies.blogs.com/sethgreenberg and ehobbies.blogs.com/rc
- Seth admits this is a new pioneering area and wanted to experiment with the channel
- Was able to "dumb down" the sign-up for RSS: the link to the "Bestsellers RSS Feed" beneath the Best Sellers sidebar takes the user to an instruction page.
- Launched the feeds just a week ago, so too new to reveal results. Feels similar to email channel.
- Affiliates could be a great application of RSS technology.
- Goal for blog: build trust, keep customers coming back, build loyalty
- Ran a promotion that resulted in 5% of all purchases redeeming the blogged "coupon"
- In June, added "blog" to the header navigation. 5% of sitewide traffic touched blog. Conversion of those who touch blog is 2x non-blog readers.
- Their "male nurse" collectible doll blog post was indexed next day by Google.
- Summarized experience as the good, bad, and ugly. The good: organic search results very good, personality, good press, effective for audience. The bad: more of a diary than a dialog with customers (message boards still have a proper place), has to convey an overall company strategy, has to be nurtured. The ugly: new technology is hard to pinpoint when things go wrong

Pinny:
- Blogs: SparkleLiketheStars.com, JustAskLeslie.com, Blog.ice.com
- 10 commandments of corporate blogging
1) Editorial - uses blog for editorial to converse with customers on jewelry advice
2) PR - PR blog talks about charity events
3) Current - hired a writer to talk about the stars and current events, talks about style, and then promotes similar products available from ice.com
4) Promotions - targeting "ice discounts" etc to target discounted jewelry
5) Customer feedback - customers can provide feedback
6) Natural search rankings - links from blog improved rankings over 2-6 weeks time
7) Sales - low volume but acquisition clear
8) Company vibe
9) Being at forefront - press is good and easy to get
10) picture of him with Beyonce

Steve:
- Blogs at SteveSpangler.com
- Steve pulled out his flaming wallet
- Steve played a funny video clip showing Diet Coke + Mentos explosion, and later gave the recipe. Was an example of a video podcast.
- One of Steve's products, "Instasnow," got posted onto BoingBoing popular blog, and created a 3x sales outcome. Record high for that product sales.
- Steve was sold on blogs, and launched
- Steve had the audience rolling over with his stories of Instasnow and related fun science products.
- Sales spikes were directly related to blog posts.
- Played an experiment: Can I own a search market by blogging it? Tried it with "launching potatoes."
- A blog post can be 3 sentences.
- Result = top 10 rankings.
- Steve says to blog best selling products, behind-the-scenes information, "Did you know?" product information, lets him voice his opinion and feelings on subjects.
- Podcast - can talk about what he is doing by speaking it, not writing it.
- Has learned the art of linking to other blogs, and filling his posts with links.
- 13% of online sales attribute to blogs
- Closing tip: 1 roll mentos, 2 liter bottle of soda for the explosion experiment!

Q&A:

Q: How do you calculate ROI?

Pinny: Don't look at blogs from ROI perspective. Low cost. Took time to get system in place, difficult to calculate actual cost and therefore ROI. Looks at it as free money.
Steve: Maybe 30 minutes per post, tries to blog a few times per week.

Q: Are blogs being commercialized?

Seth: They tend to be more informational
Pinny: Not done for sales, more for info.
Steve: Blog is a soft sell, a sense of authority, people enjoy it

Q: Do you need special skills or expensive software to blog or just use Typepad or similar?

Stephan: Advocates just download software (eg WordPress) and install on your webserver - free, functional.

Main takeaways:

1 - Have the proper motivation of trying to provide useful customer information and sales follow - often with dramatic though unpredictable results.
2 - Experiment with the technology and gain some learnings
3 - Check out Steve Spangler's funny science videos!

Is Google Video calling you?

As you may know, Google has launched in beta Google Video, a specialized search engine of video clips and TV programming. They have recently started offering a video upload capability which you can find here.

Google is being surprisingly agressive with seeking out video submissions. A Google employee from Google Labs this week sent one of our clients, Steve Spangler, an unsolicited e-mail asking for permission to add his video clips into Google Video. Here's the email he received:

Subject: [#32719712] Google Video & Steve Spanglers

Hi,

Google Video would like to include Steve Spangler's videos in the Google
Video index to let internet users find, search, and view your content.

We currently have some science videos on Google Video and feel yours is a
good fit too:

Sciencefix.com
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ScienceFix.com&pl=1&btnG=Search+Video

I believe that Google Video can help you increase the distribution of your
video content and the number of visitors to your site. If you are
interested in this opportunity, please let me know, and I will be happy to
provide you with more information via email or give you a call.

Please visit the following pages for more background on Google Video:

Google Video
http://video.google.com
Google Video FAQ
https://upload.video.google.com/video_faq.html
Google Video Preferred Video Specs
https://upload.video.google.com/video_faq.html#upload9

I look forward to hearing from you.
Cliff Saman****
email: *****@google.com
Phone: (650)623-****
Fax: (650)618-****

(I've blocked out the Google employee's full name and contact details to protect his privacy)

Steve called the guy, and the email checks out. Cliff really is a Google employee. Cliff even offered to convert the video clips into mpeg format. Cliff assured Steve that of course the video submission and file format conversion would all be free of charge.

Is anyone else getting solicited by Google Video staffers? Maybe this is part of their program of global world domination?

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